Kairos — Meeting Outcome (2026-07-04)
Outcome — approved
Full-day meeting in Vilnius (2026-07-04), Šaras + Robertas Višinskis. Robertas approved the SWAT-team engagement. Details open; next artifact is the proposal.
Terms, first estimate (Šaras): one-month SWAT trial, €10k before tax for both — roughly €3.6k net each. Lee is glad with these terms for now. That single line, if it lands, covers the July €3k/mo short-term target on its own.
Next step: build the full proposal — money, working structure, goal, duration, everything. Šaras leads it; Lee gives input. Prep context: Kairos — Meeting Prep (2026-07-04).
The second signal — Robertas wants the system
Robertas was visibly impressed by how Lee described the working setup (Claude + Obsidian + Lee as one system) and asked to be onboarded — he wants the same system, adapted to his personality and goals. He pays for Claude but barely uses it; he already uses Obsidian as a writing tool and can spin up a fresh vault. He is short on time and attention: runs Mysterium, has a six-month-old son, Matas.
Plan lives at Robertas — Second Brain Onboarding. Strategically this is the first unprompted pull for a productized "second brain install" — Source Method adjacent.
Debrief — the substance (captured 2026-07-05)
Direct Mysterium talk was only ~45–60 min of the day; the rest was reunion + light prodding of Lee's interest. Answers to the prep questions:
ROI definition. Ro was nonchalant about profit size. The one hard line: "we need to break even" — so they are losing money and the floor is stopping the bleed. His real driver is mission: the sovereign individual/organization, escaping totalitarian control by any regime — EU is just the example he lives inside; Putin, North Korea, the US deep state, no difference to him. He accepts profit as the enabler ("otherwise everything dissolves, we can't do the mission") but is not profit-driven. His words in spirit: "we're about abundance here, let's not stress too much."
The Tesonet reference (added 07-05). Ro also said "Tesonet group banked 800M in profit last year from the same market — the money is there / it's possible." Fact-check (07-05): the number is real but it's revenue, not profit — Tesonet Global UAB: ~€715M revenue, €32.2M profit (2024, tax.lt); consolidated group revenue >€1B (LRT). Directional point fully survives: Nord (VPN) + Oxylabs/Decodo (proxies) ARE Mysterium's two markets, at €1B scale, from the same city. Usable in the proposal as a verified line — say revenue, never repeat "800M profit."
Revenue split & bottleneck. Ro doesn't know the dVPN vs B2B proxy split. dVPN brings more revenue but carries a much bigger maintenance team; B2B proxy brings less with a smaller team — no clear winner, both products roughly the same age. Supply/nodes never came up as a constraint (Lee's assumption: not the limiting factor). Pricing never mentioned.
Up-stack / agent access. Already being implemented, at some level. Ro: making it universal is effectively impossible — scraping LinkedIn is totally different from scraping Facebook; heavy per-target engineering. No depth reached.
Ieva. Lee's read: not the final decision-maker — Ro never mentioned needing her approval. The proposal should still be able to win her "to some degree," but the gate assumption from prep looks wrong; Ro decides.
Budget & money source. Mysterium Network's budget, not Ro's personal money. Treasury/token never discussed. Šaras's reference: €10k for the one-month trial, for both, pre-tax — and ALL-IN: Claude Max, ad traffic, tools all come out of that envelope ("we don't bother Mysterium about it").
Advance in fiat. Not raised with Ro — Šaras owns the money negotiation, Lee won't discuss terms with Ro directly.
Hours/week. Zero discussion. After the trial: common-sense implication only — "hit the jackpot" → percentage/ownership of some kind, on a speed-of-trust basis, nothing written.
Payment reliability. Lee: not worried (≤2% doubt). Evidence: Šaras has been paid for ~6 months; possibly investment still rolling in; Ieva is a high-level CEO working there.
Engagement signal (07-06): Ro texted Lee unprompted — "Kalbant apie Šaro užkurtą iniciatyvą, gal verta bendrą chat'ą pasikurti" (worth setting up a shared chat for Šaras's initiative). Warm and forward-leaning; folded into the proposal's way-of-working (weekly written update + shared chat as an open channel).
Logistics flag: Ro leaves Tuesday (07-07) for an extended trip to Russia with his girlfriend and Matas — heavy preparation before that. Affects both proposal timing and the onboarding call (ball in Ro's court; he'll reach out).
Šaras's post-meeting voice message (3:10, Lithuanian, via Messenger) — transcribed: Šaras voice message 2026-07-04 — Mysterium proposal thoughts. Core: think systematically before building; the duo's method = Lee's deep research × Šaras's live-test "torpedoes"; the proposal must name budget, timeline, goals, and embedded-vs-outside working mode.
Debrief 2 — Švenčionėliai working day (2026-07-10, captured 07-11)
Lee spent Friday 2026-07-10 with Šaras in Švenčionėliai working the SWAT concept. New substance from his verbal debrief:
- Witnessed a monthly hands-on MN group video meeting — Lee sat in on the live monthly call (first direct exposure to the team's working rhythm).
- Talked to Robertas after everyone else left. Ro is near Moscow right now (consistent with the 07-07 departure logged above — the Russia trip is underway). Ball still in his court for the onboarding call.
- MN financials (Šaras's data): ~€30M in the bank, burning ~€2M/yr → roughly a 15-year runway. This refines the outcome-note line "we need to break even": the break-even floor is mission discipline, not desperation — the money is genuinely there. Use as quiet confidence backbone in the proposal; do not cite the figure externally (Šaras's private data).
- ⚠ CORRECTION (2026-08-13, from the 08-12 burn-canon repair): "burning ~€2M/yr" conflated net loss with the cost base. Šaras verbatim: "revenue is 2M, loss is 2M" → cost base ~€4M/yr, net loss ~€2M/yr. The runway keys off net loss, so ~15yr and the "money is genuinely there" conclusion both stand; only the label changes — the operation is twice as expensive to run as the halved figure implied, which raises the stakes of break-even discipline rather than lowering them. (Canon:
CONTEXT/CURRENT.mdpush3f550e9,Kairos — MASTER STATE.md.) - Šaras's standing: one of the original 8 co-founders and still a co-owner of the company (exact ownership details unknown; Lee trusts him completely on this). Strengthens the trust/authority frame — the deal is being built through a principal, not a contractor.
Sourced entirely from Lee's verbal debrief; Šaras's data, unverified against filings. Private — do not surface any of these numbers or ownership specifics in external artifacts.
Day log (brief)
~30 km on foot. Naujoji Vilnia station → Dūmų Fabrikas (craft-ale degustation, unusual for Lee) → Pavilnių regioninis parkas through Strielčiukų žygtakis → Belmontas (ate at Belmonto Kriokliai) → Robertas joined by car → Paupys → Užupis (business talk at a cafe) → Šaras left by train → final 1.5–2 h walk with Robertas.